In this episode, Andrew & Eric discuss the critical importance of recognizing when we need help and the various forms that assistance can take, including books, podcasts, mentors, and therapy. They emphasize the values of humility, continuous learning, and being open to guidance from others, particularly in maintaining emotional health and leading effectively in relationships.

The conversation reinforces that seeking help is not a sign of weakness but rather a proactive step toward growth, drawing on their personal experiences with therapy, trauma recovery, and self-improvement. They also highlight the necessity of having real-life support and accountability—especially from other men—to foster personal and relational development.

Additionally, they explore the benefits of trauma work, such as EMDR, in enhancing one’s leadership skills and improving relational dynamics.